Freedom is lost
written by KUDOS on July 13, 2007

Well I can honestly say things are a little out of hand, is anyone bothered by this? We need to do something!"

I dont have anything to hide, do you?
written by Andrew on July 14, 2007

I am not bothered at all by this. I don't have anything to hide, and I really don't mind the government listening in.

Uh.
written by Kayin on July 14, 2007

Right, Well, since we don't have anything to hide we should just let the government control any aspect of our lives. I'm tired of thinking for myself anyways, and am looking forward to the day I can be told what to say and fear and do. The thought police will be listening soon enough.

This is also an excellent example of the paranoid fear-mongering fitting of fox news. This so called news clip doesn't actually prove anything.

Stupid
written by Shalmanese on July 14, 2007

This is stupid and has been debunked a LONG time ago. Yes, the FBI were eavesdropping on the mafia using cell phones that had been turned off. But they were doing it by adding their OWN bugs to those cellphones. The cell phone thing is a complete red herring, it could have been a wristwatch or a ipod.

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written by W.Smith on July 14, 2007

B.B. is watching you.

You're living in a totalitarian society and you didn't even notice.
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength. Remember that and you'll be well.

Andrew there has the right idea.

you can trust me
written by nothing to fear on July 14, 2007

I have done nothing wrong, but I don't trust the government to not abuse its power. Not today, and especially not in the future. The USA has deteriorated from a relatively free country to being well on the way to a fascist state in a few short years. I shudder to think where the USA will be in another 5 years. Your rights: here today, gone tomorrow.

has anybody...
written by yea right on July 14, 2007

... who knows more about electronics and software taken a cellphone apart and verified that this is true?

Verification, please?
written by Frances on July 14, 2007

I would like to know whether this is technologically sound. If a cell phone is turned off, how would it be transmitting signals in the first place? Does it make a difference whether the battery is dead or not? I hope we're not forgetting the law of conservation of energy here.
@Andrew: I really don't understand the 'I have nothing to hide' reasoning. Are you this open to everybody else who enters your life? Can they know everything about you too? I have a big problem with agencies who are hell-bent to know everything about me, although I'm as inconsequential as the next guy. I would be a lot less reluctant if 'they' told me everything about themselves in return. But that's not going to happen, is it? Why is it ok for you to have nothing to hide, but it's ok for them to invoke 'national security' to avoid having to tell you anything? Shouldn't love work both ways?

Anyway, the 'I have nothing to hide' crew can be as open as they want. If you want to give away your rights hey, I guess that's your right. Just don't expect me to give away my rights and don't tell me I should just cooperate. If you don't mind giving everything to the government, you're either a part of it or you're seriously delusional about their good intentions.

know of one odd case
written by j on July 14, 2007

A coworker of mine one day in 2001 had, without it ringing, his cell speakerphone activate and a recorded telephone solicitation begin. He took the battery out right then and came to my office to tell me what had happened. This was with a canadian carrier.

Shhhhh!!!!
written by ATS on July 14, 2007

For the love of God, keep quiet! Chimpy McBushitler's evil jackbooted thugs could be coming to get you now! After all, Hillary's already been locked up in Manzanar, and who can forget the execution of John Kerry after GWB rigged the last election? And they didn't stop there- has anyone heard from any of the other 533 members of Congress who were sent to Gitmo? Which gulag did they send the Supreme Court to, anyway?
Besides, we wouldn't want this site shut down like the anti-fascist Daily Kos was for its relentless pro-American patriotic fervor, or like the NY Times, the Washington Post, or even CBS after Dan Rather's 1972 WordPerfect document story. It's a dangerous world out there, and you can hardly see the horizon for the smoke of all the burning books these days, and even Google and Yahoo! have been offline for what seems like months now to prevent us from keeping tabs on the Gummint. I personally live in terror every day at the thought of GWB engineering another WTC attack, or of Karl Rove's terrifying wind machine being used to sink another city or to blow up more dikes. Or maybe he'll use the weapons of mass destruction that we found back in 1992 and were concerned about again in 1998 and 2000 to attack San Pedro Harbor. I hope we survive the remaining Bush years- after the stolen election, of course, no matter what the NORC report said- and hope and pray that he doesn't shut down the elections entirely like the fascist he is. Because that's what a fascist would do.
You guys have really got to watch what you say. The FBI could be listening, because they've got nothing better to do. And if they don't like what they hear from monitoring you through your cell phone, they'll ship you straight to a concentration camp thanks to GWB's repeal of the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constiution.

Try removing the battery. I'm going to go watch more GWB-criticism-free Gummint-controlled broadcast media and then bow down before a heathen idol just to piss Georgie off.

P.S.
written by ATS on July 14, 2007

Don't forget to close your blinds so Oceania's bombers can't see the lights. Also, no going outside after dark- remember the federal curfew?

I just want to be sure everyone's completely clear on how awful this "totalitarian state" we're living in really is. Sleep well.

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written by me on July 14, 2007

Cell phone eavesdropping has been around for a long time. The cell phone need not be turned on, just needs to have the battery installed. Private conversation (and no GPS tracking) require you to leave the cell phone home, or remove the battery.

somescience
written by valence_quark on July 15, 2007

the cell phone doesn't need a baterry to be installed, this is done by resonant receviers, since mic. is semiconductor based device it resonates at external field activation, so teoreticaly it can be activated by external field sorce. and geting back harmonics of main resonant frequency modulated by sound around it. Everything around us can be passive resonator at certain frequency, all loudspeakers, and all electronics we have , even ceramic dishes.

Here's a test
written by bradley547 on July 17, 2007

I have to say this is bunk. If the phone is off it's not contacting the cell tower and you can't transmit info. Don't believe it? Heres a test.
Leave your phone on but do not use it, and see how long the battery lasts. Then turn it off and see how long it lasts then.
If it's on but not transmitting voice, it's still using power to contact the cell, so most phones will die in 3 to 5 days. A phone that's off will last weeks to months. I keep an emergency phone in my car that I recharge every two months though it has yet to need it.
Bottom line, if the battery isn't discharging, the phone isn't transmitting.

WAKE UP PEOPLE
written by getsmart on July 19, 2007

it doesnt constantly transmit u idiot they activate it when they listen so your battery isnt always draining just look at how many of our rights are slowly being striped away from us if u think thngs are fine then u are part of the goverment posting comments in here to stear people away from truth or are a comlete blind idiot do you really wana live in a communist country casue thats where we r headed and this country talks about Domocracy but we are not even a democracy and hvent been since before the civil war just say the ledge of alegance it says and to the republic for which it stands not democracy soon it will be comunist country just watch andour goverment is really being ran by international banks that buy our national debt our money used to be backed by gold silver and platinum but not any more there is nothing backing our money this country is going to shit and fast 911 was staged to scare us into giving up our rights an freedoms SCARE people and they will give up anything to feel safe even thier freedoms and thats exactally what america will do is just lay down to feel safe such a pity and i wouldnt put your real email address down they can track u

JUST THINK
written by getsmart on July 19, 2007

There are technologies out there posessed by the govermnt that you dont even know exist let alone even if you did you wouldnt understand how they work for instance you own several different tecnologies cell phones computers but can you break down every little part of its tecnology and explain how it works no you cant unless its explained to you so just because you dont understand how it works doesnt mean it cant be true or happen you dont know shit thats the truth before people had cell phones no one would have believed you can send someones voice through the air they would have said it was impossible to do 100 years ago and technology is advadancing 10 times the speed it was 50 years ago there are technologies out there that would blow your mind and would never think they could be possible until you actually see it . GET SMART BEFORE ITS TOO LATE TAKE BACK WHAT R FORE FATEHRS DIED FOR OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS BEFORE THEY R ALL GONE

DISTRACTIONS
written by getsmart on July 19, 2007

also the allowanc of illeagal immigrants to this country is just one of many distractions why did we go to Iraq suppossedly for WMD's but there were none but North Korea has them and is known for selling weapons so if we are truly worried about WMD's then we should have started there the people that were on the plane were from Saudi Arabia not Iraq and the Bush family has long ties with the Saudi Arabians also thee is technology that allows cars to run off of pure water by seperating the Hydrogen and oxygen atoms through an electrolosis process but the inventor myteriously died after eating out at a restaurant he was recieving threats from Foriegn oil companys in reguards to his technology u really think the big oil companies wouldnt kill to keep making hundreds of billions of dollars a year huh guess what they would do alot worse if they had to and they do money talks and unfortenly for the USA our goverment has already been bought out a long time ago very sad indeed just search google about a car running on water u will see

If you wonder about the truth of this...
written by checkitout on July 25, 2007

Apparantly this is true, see corroborating story on CNet news:
http://news.com.com/FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

Who really has knows?? Only One!
written by getagrip on August 4, 2007

The main reason this country is in the state it's in is because of the MEDIA. And society, being the weak little followers that they are, believes everything they read, without further research. Got news for you, the government has always been corrupt to some degree, duh. Government leaders are human beings too, putting them in power does not make them holy. The media has done more damage, has told more lies, has manipulated more people than all the government officials combined. What happens when a government official is caught (keey word here is being caught) doing something wrong, he is impeached, fired, imprisoned, but what happens to the media when it is caught doing wrong - NOTHING!!!!! And who allowed all this to happen - SOCIETY!! You stopped want just the facts, who, what, when and where and wanted more juicy stories and guess what, you got it. The true power of this world doesn't exist in government officials, it exists in the media, that is what will destroy us, that is the devil!

If you believe they can listen in while your cell phone is turnd off, your retarded,and u need to slapp ur self
written by Nicholas (get a grip) on August 4, 2007

commensense, phone off, no power, gps cant even track you.This makes me think how many dumba**es are out thier

Just a little more info
written by Max on November 1, 2007

For this to be done the listening party has to have access to the cell phone to fix it so when the user turns the phone off, the battery stays on but makes the phone look like it's off. This can be prevented by taking the battery out. It's all explained in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujosfSkHFrQ

As for those who are not bothered by this. I don't want to government to listen in on me for two reasons. There is only one reason to live in America and that is the freedom to think, say, worship, love, and live where ever you want. It's your life. And second, I do got shit to hide so get the fuck out of my buisness.

The Secrets of War
written by BigcAkeen on April 30, 2009

If ur a news buff, i got news for u. Even if u remove the battery, they can still hear u. All cell phones dont need that much power for them to hear u. U figure out what i'm tryna tell u. google me

New World Order
written by ickylicky501 on May 1, 2009

I have been watching videos on Youtube for the last day and a half and it is so bad anymore. Everything in our govt. is corrupt anymore. We no longer have anymore freedom. And we did it to ourselves inadvertantly. Well technology did. I remember when I was a kid my mom used to talk about how this time would come eventually and she was right. She used to say that the govt would be able to see into our homes through devices that are installed in our t.v.'s and I am sure that that is actually being done with our computers. We are being watched or spied on in every way. And the only reason for the Govt to do that is so that they can have total and complete control. The new world order is well underway, it has been for some time now. Have any of you noticed how ever since 9/11 it has been a constant flow of one situation or another in the media. After 9/11 it has been the economy and now it is infectious disease. It is creepy that they are keeping us totally pre occupied by one thing or another and all the while they are doing stuff that we are not taking any notice of because we are to busy worrying about everything else. There are camps popping up all over the United States and no one is even paying attention. These camps are being built by Fema and they really are set up like modern day concentration camps. If you go on YOUTUBE you can punch in NWO (New World Order) or concentration camps and all kinds of vids come up. Martial Law is another thing that no one is paying attention to. "Operation Garden Plot" ( as ridiculous as it sounds check out this link for a better understanding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Garden_Plot ) ( this is a better one
http://goldenheart888.wordpress.com/suppressed-2012-pole-shift-science/femarex84-operationgardenplot/)) It was kept hidden from the public for a long time until someone really fought for the information to be released by the govt. It took 3 yrs!! It is basically our govt saying that during times of civil unrest that they have total command and control of civilians using Martial Law. We loose all of our rights and they have total control to do whatever they want to us. Basically is you resist what is being dictated to you with what is coming in the next 5-7 yrs you will be PUNISHED. I really do hope that people wake up and start paying attention to what is going on. Everyone is so wrapped up in everything else and their own lives that they cant see what is right in front of us!!!

Bradly /Andrew.......
written by ickylicky501 on May 1, 2009

This news piece isn't saying that the FBI is continually listening in on our cell phones. They are saying that they can listen in if or WHEN(keyword here "When") they want to. People have known this for some time. They can track your where abouts as well with the GPS signal on your phone as well. All new vehicles that are computered dash's are the same. How do you think ON STAR works?? It isn't like major rocket science. It is relatively simple technology. People just do not like the idea that we are or can be that easily surveyed. Well get used to it cuz that is what technology has done to us. It is now a love/hate relationship. We love tech. cuz we are so much more comfortable with everything that it has to offer but it is really invading our freedom and privacy. When I really let myself think deeply about how cell phones and computers etc. really work it really is creepy. Do you really think that there is some random signal that transmitts all this info to and from one source to another?? It really is evil in its own way. The devil has so much more control now and is really able to fulfill his plan of implementing the NWO now that we are slaves to technology. As long as christians remember who is what and what is where then we should be "O.K." Lest we forget and are sucked into the fiendish plan that armagetton has in store for the future. We will soon be ONE world gov't., bank, cashless society, the chip will be implanted in everyone. No one will be able to function without it. If you are disobedient then they will simply shut it off. They can control your very existence by accessing your chip whenever they please. Wake up people!!!! WAKE UP!! It is all in Revelation in the bible. It has never been able to come to frutition before now because we never had the technology that we have now, but that is over now, we are wide open!!

hmmmm....
written by derek on September 15, 2009

well i got nuthin' to worry about. im a darling little angle.